That is a very good question. The way the discussion thread goes is that the ACTUAL Elites themselves have intentionally left behind little pieces of disinformation about who they are. From what I can tell, Firestarter is really onto something substantial in spite of the attempts of throwing us off. It is very hard to get "current information," though not impossible.
The main body of research starts from the most early beginnings. We are trying to analyze a whole isolated "culture" with it's own religion and psychology.
So, to your question I would say the dragons are the vampires, only if they can prove themselves as being from the actual bloodline. If not, then the people who are followers and immediately close to the actual dragons are still part of the organization.
Think of it as a type of hierarchy where the highest among them are in the inner part of an onion skin; the further out you go the more separation there is from the dragons themselves. All the same cult though; I am not sure if they treat the lesser ones like "serfs."
As far as the blood drinkers go, that is actually tied to the human trafficking and pedophilia issue; Epstein and all the "reverse blackmail," used on the corporate CEO's ,,, et al.
I would consider the Dragon organization is trying to uphold their own "ideal," that to many of us seems like "Satan." In order to uncover this carefully hidden organization, I find it useful to avoid all the labels; yet I do realize that what they are doing is likely a complete REDEFINITION of evil, I still try to maintain an analytical stance.
From my own spiritual perspective, it is not possible to "posses" a human being.
A human being is a physical manifestation of the immutable formless consciousness that both resides within, and expresses itself through and towards the outward world; interference in that movement of spiritual evolution is never allowed, the Divine force prevents it.
Jesus or Yeshua was a man, a seer and a spiritual teacher; he wanted to provide a means for all human beings to develop a deep connection to the Divine consciousness within each person. His goal did NOT include: creating a "Church," a "Holy Roman Empire," a "Pseudo Spiritual Hierarchy," where only the chosen few get to have access to knowledge; and he definitely did not want all the "Colonialism and Erasure of Native Cultures," that followed his time here.
The ancient King Neferhotep Khasekhemre was a righteous ruler; trying to keep things together, as he realized that the culture of Kumatkt: was coming undone. Something we are witnessing today.
A country called Tau - Mrea: (meaning Beloved Land) in a similar sense as our current one "These United States," was under threat.
And no, I never sent ants; just use some boric acid on them, or diatomaceous earth. I always try to use natural remedies if possible.
Good to remember also that many millions of people descend from these bloodlines. Descent and genealogy do not make descendants crooks or associates. It is still a choice for these family members. The evil is in the deeds and to some extent in the damaged psychological integrity of some of these family units. For a modern primer on this kind of family structure watch Succession.
You hit the nail on the head. Absolutely agree with you. I consider bloodlines as the same as all other physical "forms," physical forms are not a problem. Anyone who may have been born into one of these families CAN choose NOT to do the things that others amongst them have.
Form is caused by the formless power that stands behind it. Life is a movement of consciousness only, forms can only be a shadow cast by that which we don't see. Form is a focus of attention within infinite awareness. Psychology is a pattern of perception native to both mind and emotional sense. Consciousness is primary, and exists way beyond psychological or physical reality. I could go on, but you get the idea.
The main battle field here is civilization and culture and the reason for the conflict is because culturally we have severed our connection to Spiritual reality.
A great compilation on DRAGONS. In the Polish legends, we also have the Dragon (Smok} of Wawel Castle, a complex of stone/brick structures located in Cracow, a capitol of Poland for centuries.
There is a lot more on the way. I have been mulling over the best method of getting the information out to people who may find this interesting. Ron Paul Forums is VAST.
Yes, Dragon symbolism is quite wide spread, it always finds its way to manifest in context with "ruling class" hierarchy. In addition to that, it's like a nuanced study of the underlying psychology that gave rise to what I call "arbitrary hierarchy."
I'll be posting a lot more, I am going to try keeping each post a bit smaller than the last two. (Best way to eat an entire elephant is one bite at a time. )
I always hold my nose, while holding politicians at arms length. I'm not sure I trust Trump, he is connected to Pemindex, I need to dig into that a little deeper. I think Firestarter has some info on that. If I post anything on Trump I want to be as accurate as possible; that is hard to do.
One bit is a very good approach because of TIME and current short attention span of many.
Let me tell HOW our smok was kiiled as we need to know HOW to kill the dragon.
A shoemaker's apprentice, Szewczyk Dratewka, prepared a treat for dragon:. a freshly killed lamb with sulfur staffing, with poured over fresh blood, and served this meal to a hungry dragon.
A burning feeling in the gastro system forced dragon to run to waters of Vistula River. It (smok) couldn't stop drinking until it exploded.
Currently, I'm munching on concept of TIME, which is time consuming.
This is very good and a necessary deep history. Wonder how many understand how true this is? Origins of a psychopathic society begin with denial. The men who imagine these dragon societies are the very ones who fear and deny the power of life itself. They become the very personification of Mephistopheles by lying to themselves and everyone else. Bloodlines are not the problem it is the codification of the mental instability in the family and society. Sins of the fathers and all that. The dragons are indeed there - just not as advertised. Maybe we are fortunate to be living in a time of final paroxysmal evidence of this. Mythic? Yes. Fiction? No.
This has been a study of the history of Elites, I can now see its also a study of their psychology and culture. If we can connect the dots as to what is going on in their heads, it may be easier to avoid their plans.
Great insight thanks. I have had a concern for a long time these kleptocratic pirates are pretty psychologically unstable compared to those who are not. Yes knowing our enemies really important.
Meanwhile, what we must do from the perspective of acting on our true sovereign freedom, is meticulously work out ways to nullify their pseudo legal structures. Illegal laws, Aloidal Trust, Corporatism, military and medical industrial complex.... et al.
Yes. There must be an equal and opposite reaction and accountability for the crimes. As you say a dismantling of their structural integrity. World Economic Forum & all associates, enablers, middle management, etc. Now we need complete organization charts like never before.
There is a beginning of an organization chart put out by Kathrine Watt. I've tried asking her via the comments section if she has any legal data on the Depository Trust Corp and Cede & Company. I am beginning to see this as an important step in dismantling the primary organs of the Criminal Cabal.
I haven't seen that and haven't seen her mention the WEF very often. The best resource is the WEF website itself. They have bragged openly about their infiltration of government cabinets at national, state, city and community levels. WEF association with the corporations is deep and many layered - including media, health, big tech, banks, insurance. religious organizations, non profits YMCA, American Red Cross, World Wildlife Fund - you name it!
Here is one of my many posts (more recent) on this subject. Have written about it for three years.
This is very interesting to me and timely as I was only looking in to who is at the top of the pyramid yesterday! If there is a pyramid. Obviously, it isn't easy due to the secrecy but I have read a theory that the Rothschilds are the banking arm of the elites. They run Israel.
The Rockefellers are in the US. The US has been used to fight wars for years.
At the top of the pile is the Vatican and 13 families who are ancient blood lines from the Roman Empire. Jesuits work for them (or maybe have even infiltrated them).
They are Luciferian. They have set up the UN whose main goal is to build a “one world government”. China is where the technocracy trial is being run.
This guy talks about controlling the human population as described by H G Wells etc. He thinks the elites will use a 'crisis' such as with the climate to traumatise young people. Well, even more than they have already! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtFo6E6Xs64
I'll try to dig up an article I read on the 13 bloodlines. I have a simple list of them here:
Borja; Breakspeare; Somaglia; Orsini; Conti; Aldobrandini; Chigi; Colonna; Farnese; Medici; Gaetani; Pamphili; and Este. Many of these families do so much intermarriage that it may all be from one original family called the Bacarocks, I know that Karl Marx family actually originated from the Bauer family that later became known as Rothschild.
Lets remember that this is not just a criminal syndicate; it is an entire culture that stems from a common family line that maintains a secret religious practice, keeps ALL of it's own records and creates and enforces all it's own laws.
Just for humor; if you ever see a family tree that doesn't "branch," you know your looking at the Rothschilds.
I have heard that the Jesuit Order run the military intelligence agencies. The Jesuits control Beijing and Moscow. They run the dictator of China and they run the dictator of Russia. It doesn’t matter who he is. It doesn’t matter what their names are. The Jesuits control them, and if they resist them, they’re out! Just like in the United States.
I guess the Rothschilds handle the banking sides of things. This relatively small group of nasty people have been in control for years and gather together to plan their next moves. Their plans are longer term than the 5 years or so that politicians look at.
When I was looking at the bigger picture, I did read that the Jesuits more or less run the US for the Vatican and have been behind some major events like the assassination of JFK. I don't know if that is true but if they run the intelligence agencies, it could well be.
Thanks for the clarification, I'll check out the link. I still have a suspicion that he simply works for the upper level, but not necessarily a direct line to them.
I haven't been able to positively place Fauci. It's certainly possible. There are many individual relationships that should be checked out. It's really time consuming to do it correctly.
I CAN'T believe it IS nytimes...
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Are dragons the serfs of vampires or vice-versa?
That is a very good question. The way the discussion thread goes is that the ACTUAL Elites themselves have intentionally left behind little pieces of disinformation about who they are. From what I can tell, Firestarter is really onto something substantial in spite of the attempts of throwing us off. It is very hard to get "current information," though not impossible.
The main body of research starts from the most early beginnings. We are trying to analyze a whole isolated "culture" with it's own religion and psychology.
So, to your question I would say the dragons are the vampires, only if they can prove themselves as being from the actual bloodline. If not, then the people who are followers and immediately close to the actual dragons are still part of the organization.
Think of it as a type of hierarchy where the highest among them are in the inner part of an onion skin; the further out you go the more separation there is from the dragons themselves. All the same cult though; I am not sure if they treat the lesser ones like "serfs."
As far as the blood drinkers go, that is actually tied to the human trafficking and pedophilia issue; Epstein and all the "reverse blackmail," used on the corporate CEO's ,,, et al.
Would you agree that dragon organization is ruled by Satan whose minions, the Demons do
posses humans thus transforming them into non-human beings, cyborgs or such?
? Was Jesus Christ a man, or it is a 2-millennium-old legend?
?? Since conception of our substacking, pharaoh's ants reside in my kitchen -- has Nefahotep sent them here?
NEWS; Progress in the Big Pharma, a NOVEL TURBO CANCER, huh!
I would consider the Dragon organization is trying to uphold their own "ideal," that to many of us seems like "Satan." In order to uncover this carefully hidden organization, I find it useful to avoid all the labels; yet I do realize that what they are doing is likely a complete REDEFINITION of evil, I still try to maintain an analytical stance.
From my own spiritual perspective, it is not possible to "posses" a human being.
A human being is a physical manifestation of the immutable formless consciousness that both resides within, and expresses itself through and towards the outward world; interference in that movement of spiritual evolution is never allowed, the Divine force prevents it.
Jesus or Yeshua was a man, a seer and a spiritual teacher; he wanted to provide a means for all human beings to develop a deep connection to the Divine consciousness within each person. His goal did NOT include: creating a "Church," a "Holy Roman Empire," a "Pseudo Spiritual Hierarchy," where only the chosen few get to have access to knowledge; and he definitely did not want all the "Colonialism and Erasure of Native Cultures," that followed his time here.
The ancient King Neferhotep Khasekhemre was a righteous ruler; trying to keep things together, as he realized that the culture of Kumatkt: was coming undone. Something we are witnessing today.
A country called Tau - Mrea: (meaning Beloved Land) in a similar sense as our current one "These United States," was under threat.
And no, I never sent ants; just use some boric acid on them, or diatomaceous earth. I always try to use natural remedies if possible.
Good to remember also that many millions of people descend from these bloodlines. Descent and genealogy do not make descendants crooks or associates. It is still a choice for these family members. The evil is in the deeds and to some extent in the damaged psychological integrity of some of these family units. For a modern primer on this kind of family structure watch Succession.
You hit the nail on the head. Absolutely agree with you. I consider bloodlines as the same as all other physical "forms," physical forms are not a problem. Anyone who may have been born into one of these families CAN choose NOT to do the things that others amongst them have.
Form is caused by the formless power that stands behind it. Life is a movement of consciousness only, forms can only be a shadow cast by that which we don't see. Form is a focus of attention within infinite awareness. Psychology is a pattern of perception native to both mind and emotional sense. Consciousness is primary, and exists way beyond psychological or physical reality. I could go on, but you get the idea.
The main battle field here is civilization and culture and the reason for the conflict is because culturally we have severed our connection to Spiritual reality.
You just described one of my favorite subjects in a nutshell. Shared this in a post a few days ago.
https://youtu.be/CNI12ak1mmI
When we awaken to the spirit within, the outside world becomes a very different place.
A great compilation on DRAGONS. In the Polish legends, we also have the Dragon (Smok} of Wawel Castle, a complex of stone/brick structures located in Cracow, a capitol of Poland for centuries.
There is a lot more on the way. I have been mulling over the best method of getting the information out to people who may find this interesting. Ron Paul Forums is VAST.
Yes, Dragon symbolism is quite wide spread, it always finds its way to manifest in context with "ruling class" hierarchy. In addition to that, it's like a nuanced study of the underlying psychology that gave rise to what I call "arbitrary hierarchy."
I'll be posting a lot more, I am going to try keeping each post a bit smaller than the last two. (Best way to eat an entire elephant is one bite at a time. )
Jung VS Freud,: J. F. Kennedy AND Trump -- similarity of their announced Noble Plans?
I always hold my nose, while holding politicians at arms length. I'm not sure I trust Trump, he is connected to Pemindex, I need to dig into that a little deeper. I think Firestarter has some info on that. If I post anything on Trump I want to be as accurate as possible; that is hard to do.
Trump on SWC: https://stopworldcontrol.com/trumpkeys/
Psychogenic ELITISM -- uhm, uhm...
Thanks I'll check it out
One bit is a very good approach because of TIME and current short attention span of many.
Let me tell HOW our smok was kiiled as we need to know HOW to kill the dragon.
A shoemaker's apprentice, Szewczyk Dratewka, prepared a treat for dragon:. a freshly killed lamb with sulfur staffing, with poured over fresh blood, and served this meal to a hungry dragon.
A burning feeling in the gastro system forced dragon to run to waters of Vistula River. It (smok) couldn't stop drinking until it exploded.
Currently, I'm munching on concept of TIME, which is time consuming.
This is very good and a necessary deep history. Wonder how many understand how true this is? Origins of a psychopathic society begin with denial. The men who imagine these dragon societies are the very ones who fear and deny the power of life itself. They become the very personification of Mephistopheles by lying to themselves and everyone else. Bloodlines are not the problem it is the codification of the mental instability in the family and society. Sins of the fathers and all that. The dragons are indeed there - just not as advertised. Maybe we are fortunate to be living in a time of final paroxysmal evidence of this. Mythic? Yes. Fiction? No.
This has been a study of the history of Elites, I can now see its also a study of their psychology and culture. If we can connect the dots as to what is going on in their heads, it may be easier to avoid their plans.
Great insight thanks. I have had a concern for a long time these kleptocratic pirates are pretty psychologically unstable compared to those who are not. Yes knowing our enemies really important.
Meanwhile, what we must do from the perspective of acting on our true sovereign freedom, is meticulously work out ways to nullify their pseudo legal structures. Illegal laws, Aloidal Trust, Corporatism, military and medical industrial complex.... et al.
Yes. There must be an equal and opposite reaction and accountability for the crimes. As you say a dismantling of their structural integrity. World Economic Forum & all associates, enablers, middle management, etc. Now we need complete organization charts like never before.
There is a beginning of an organization chart put out by Kathrine Watt. I've tried asking her via the comments section if she has any legal data on the Depository Trust Corp and Cede & Company. I am beginning to see this as an important step in dismantling the primary organs of the Criminal Cabal.
I haven't seen that and haven't seen her mention the WEF very often. The best resource is the WEF website itself. They have bragged openly about their infiltration of government cabinets at national, state, city and community levels. WEF association with the corporations is deep and many layered - including media, health, big tech, banks, insurance. religious organizations, non profits YMCA, American Red Cross, World Wildlife Fund - you name it!
Here is one of my many posts (more recent) on this subject. Have written about it for three years.
https://open.substack.com/pub/kwnorton/p/silicon-valley-covid-the-world-economic?r=boqs0&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
This is very interesting to me and timely as I was only looking in to who is at the top of the pyramid yesterday! If there is a pyramid. Obviously, it isn't easy due to the secrecy but I have read a theory that the Rothschilds are the banking arm of the elites. They run Israel.
The Rockefellers are in the US. The US has been used to fight wars for years.
At the top of the pile is the Vatican and 13 families who are ancient blood lines from the Roman Empire. Jesuits work for them (or maybe have even infiltrated them).
They are Luciferian. They have set up the UN whose main goal is to build a “one world government”. China is where the technocracy trial is being run.
This guy talks about controlling the human population as described by H G Wells etc. He thinks the elites will use a 'crisis' such as with the climate to traumatise young people. Well, even more than they have already! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtFo6E6Xs64
I'll try to dig up an article I read on the 13 bloodlines. I have a simple list of them here:
Borja; Breakspeare; Somaglia; Orsini; Conti; Aldobrandini; Chigi; Colonna; Farnese; Medici; Gaetani; Pamphili; and Este. Many of these families do so much intermarriage that it may all be from one original family called the Bacarocks, I know that Karl Marx family actually originated from the Bauer family that later became known as Rothschild.
Lets remember that this is not just a criminal syndicate; it is an entire culture that stems from a common family line that maintains a secret religious practice, keeps ALL of it's own records and creates and enforces all it's own laws.
Just for humor; if you ever see a family tree that doesn't "branch," you know your looking at the Rothschilds.
Thank you, that would be great.
I have heard that the Jesuit Order run the military intelligence agencies. The Jesuits control Beijing and Moscow. They run the dictator of China and they run the dictator of Russia. It doesn’t matter who he is. It doesn’t matter what their names are. The Jesuits control them, and if they resist them, they’re out! Just like in the United States.
I guess the Rothschilds handle the banking sides of things. This relatively small group of nasty people have been in control for years and gather together to plan their next moves. Their plans are longer term than the 5 years or so that politicians look at.
Isn’t Fauci a Jesuit? Have you seen the oath they take? Don’t mark my words, but it is interesting.
Apparently there are definite links between Fauci and the Jesuits! 'Dr. Anthony Fauci, Director of the NIAID (Jesuit educated at College of the Holy Cross and Regis High School)'. https://lightonlight.education/dr-anthony-fauci-a-jesuit-mastermind-straight-from-rome/
When I was looking at the bigger picture, I did read that the Jesuits more or less run the US for the Vatican and have been behind some major events like the assassination of JFK. I don't know if that is true but if they run the intelligence agencies, it could well be.
EXACTLY! I’ll read this later. Thanks for the information!
Thanks for the clarification, I'll check out the link. I still have a suspicion that he simply works for the upper level, but not necessarily a direct line to them.
I haven't been able to positively place Fauci. It's certainly possible. There are many individual relationships that should be checked out. It's really time consuming to do it correctly.
BANKER definition: A person who eats your lunch and then charges you for it.
Chat GPT provides not-heavily-censored and rather objective answers - check it out.
Eg. Babylonian Pagans/Rothchild's, if interested.